I touched on Surprise in a prior post, but it’s time to solidify it. Surprise is codified in every edition of the game, so it’s a must-have. However, it’s worth a look at how those other games (and later works) handled surprise, and how 2e stands apart from them.
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Thursday, December 11, 2025
Hacking 2e: Roll-Under Mechanics – Part 1
The inconsistency of die mechanics in AD&D is often cited as one of the more confusing parts of the game. Putting aside the cacophony of die types (death to the percentile roll), the main issue is roll-under vs roll-over and where the modifier goes. This can seem arbitrary on first glance, but there is some consistency. Here are (most of) the rolls one can make, the ‘goal’ of that roll, and what’s being modified:
|
Modifier for… |
Attempting to… |
High or Low |
Modifying |
|
Saving Throw |
Beat a Static Value |
High |
Roll |
|
Surprise |
Beat a Static Value |
High |
Roll |
|
Attack Roll |
Beat a Static Value |
High |
Roll |
|
Damage |
Get a High Number |
High |
Roll |
|
Reaction |
Place on a Spectrum |
High (if you fix it) |
Roll |
|
Initiative |
Get a Low Number |
Low |
Roll |
|
Nonweapon Prof. |
Beat a Static Value |
Low |
Ability Score |
|
Thieving Skill |
Beat a Static Value |
Low |
Thieving Skill Score |
|
Morale |
Beat a Static Value |
Low |
Morale Rating |
Note: The assumption in this breakdown is that we’re gunning for the ‘desirable’ result for the PC.
You can see that we’re mostly trying to beat a value, whether that number is based on rolled attributes, level-based tables, more-than-three, or whatever number THAC0 spits out (depending on how one uses THAC0). Damage and Initiative are just seeking straight-up results from the dice. Reaction is our outlier, as it’s used to determine the temperature of the NPCs.
There’s correlation here: you add the modifier to the roll if rolling high, and you add the modifier to a static value if rolling low. Initiative is the weirdo, being the only time you modify the roll while also trying to roll low.
As I’ve made clear in previous discussions, I’m in favor of making everything into a roll-under mechanic. This chart shows that in order to do that, I’ll need to add modifiers to the values rather than the rolls. We’ve already got three rolls with that setup (NWP, Thieving Skills, and Morale), so let’s do the rest.
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